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	<title>Comments on: The Problem With Maven</title>
	<link>http://www.alittlemadness.com/2007/08/01/the-problem-with-maven/</link>
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		<title>By: The Joy and Sorrow that is Maven &#124; Brugge Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.alittlemadness.com/2007/08/01/the-problem-with-maven/#comment-55727</link>
		<author>The Joy and Sorrow that is Maven &#124; Brugge Blog</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What&#8217;s to love and hate? The Zutubi guys summarize it well: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] What&#8217;s to love and hate? The Zutubi guys summarize it well: [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.alittlemadness.com/2007/08/01/the-problem-with-maven/#comment-36259</link>
		<author>Jason</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brett,

Yeah, you should have come along, it was a good couple of days.  Anyhow, it is good to hear that things are being addressed.  No doubt I didn't mention anything the Maven team didn't already know.  I just find it interesting that holy wars over Maven don't focus much on the "religion" (i.e. the theory) as normally happens.  The good thing about this is it is easier to improve the implementation than completely change your approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brett,</p>
<p>Yeah, you should have come along, it was a good couple of days.  Anyhow, it is good to hear that things are being addressed.  No doubt I didn&#8217;t mention anything the Maven team didn&#8217;t already know.  I just find it interesting that holy wars over Maven don&#8217;t focus much on the &#8220;religion&#8221; (i.e. the theory) as normally happens.  The good thing about this is it is easier to improve the implementation than completely change your approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.alittlemadness.com/2007/08/01/the-problem-with-maven/#comment-36213</link>
		<author>Brett Porter</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.alittlemadness.com/2007/08/01/the-problem-with-maven/#comment-36213</guid>
		<description>Hi, sorry I didn't make it out to CITCON as I'd intended - it seems like I missed all the fun :)

You make some valid points. The issue of better plugin control is on the top of the list for the Maven 2.1 release. In the space of providing Maven "distributions" - this is one of the key reasons that DevZuz provide the Maestro distribution. On the last point I certainly agree - we see a lot of use of the "antrun" or scripting plugins at the moment to achieve this and it certainly could be easier through a more flexible lifecycle mapping.

Thanks for the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, sorry I didn&#8217;t make it out to CITCON as I&#8217;d intended - it seems like I missed all the fun <img src='http://www.alittlemadness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You make some valid points. The issue of better plugin control is on the top of the list for the Maven 2.1 release. In the space of providing Maven &#8220;distributions&#8221; - this is one of the key reasons that DevZuz provide the Maestro distribution. On the last point I certainly agree - we see a lot of use of the &#8220;antrun&#8221; or scripting plugins at the moment to achieve this and it certainly could be easier through a more flexible lifecycle mapping.</p>
<p>Thanks for the post!</p>
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		<title>By: LES</title>
		<link>http://www.alittlemadness.com/2007/08/01/the-problem-with-maven/#comment-36176</link>
		<author>LES</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.alittlemadness.com/2007/08/01/the-problem-with-maven/#comment-36176</guid>
		<description>The problem is the learning curve.  It's steep.  However, once you get it, you love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is the learning curve.  It&#8217;s steep.  However, once you get it, you love it.</p>
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